Joe Bike Box Bike: Phase II

Today was a big day for KP, my 11-month-old daughter. She got to ride facing forward in the box bike for the first time. Previously, she would always ride in her car seat, facing backwards, like this:

KP in Box Bike
KP in Box Bike

But today, check out this big kid:

KP Looks to the Future

No car seat, forward facing. Neat, huh?

Turns out, the view from the handlebars isn’t quite as great. I used to be able to directly see her face. Now, I just see the top of her head.

KP's Wind-blown hair.

But now I get to see her turning her head back and forth, checking out the world. I get to watch her hair dancing in the wind. I get to watch her hang her elbow out over the edge of the box, looking casual.

Yes, there will be much evening cycling this summer.

Joe Bike Box Bike Review

KP in box bike
KP in box bike

I’ve owned the Joe Bike Box Bike for about four months now, and I took it out for what will probably be the last ride of the season last night. It’s probably about time to write a formal review. I decided to purchase the Joe Bike Box Bike because it was the cheapest Box Bike I could find, but it still appeared to be a mechanically solid machine. The Joe Box costs about $1700, which is substantially less than the $2800-3200 for a Bullitt Bike or Bakfiets. The other option we considered was Double Dutch bikes, which are generally priced at about $2000.

Joe Bike
Joe Bike

First Reactions –  We bought the bike over the internet sight-unseen, so it was a little bit of a surprise when we saw it for the first time. The bike has a definite homemade look to it. If you fancy yourself a designer, or if sophisticated design is important to you, you’ll be disappointed with the Joe Bike. The Joe Bike places more emphasis on being mechanically sound than on design.

I was initially surprised at the size of the box – it was smaller than I was expecting – the box is just barely big enough to fit a standard car seat. Keep this in mind when comparing with other box bikes out there. Many box bikes are larger (which also makes them harder to steer/balance). Joe Bike offers only one size of box. Some other companies offer both short- and long-box options. The Joe Bike is comparable to the short-box options out there.

The bike handles extremely well. When I test rode the Bullitt, it was wobbly and hard to get used to, which I think is a result of the overall length of the bike. The Joe Bike felt completely natural, and not much different than a standard bicycle, probably a result of being shorter than than the Bullitt.

Brakes – The bike features a Shimano IM-80 roller brake on the rear wheel, and v-brakes on the front wheel. Generally, I would describe the braking power of the Joe Bike as acceptable, but not impressive. I’ve never felt like I didn’t have enough braking power, including on downhills, but the braking power is substantially less impressive than the disc brakes I experienced on the Bullitt Bike. The v-brakes on this bike are generic and low-quality, and contribute very little to the overall braking power of the bike (also, they have a pretty nasty shimmy when applied with a lot of pressure). If the bike has a weak point, it’s the brakes. Still, the brakes are sufficient for everything I’ve done so far.

Frame – The frame feels solid and the paint looks nice. There is noticeable flex in the frame, but I haven’t experienced any problems or found it to be too distracting. The linking mechanism connecting the handlebars with the front wheel is solid and reliable. The rear rack is solid and will handle significant loads. Unfortunately, due to the oversized seat tube, the seat has continually slipped down over time, and no amount of tightening-it-down seems to be able to counteract this. The step-through frame geometry (compared to the Bullitt with a top-tube) is both good and bad. It’s easier to get on and off the bike, but a top tube would definitely make it easier to hold the bike up while stopped.

Gears – The Shimano Redband 8-speed internal gear hub is solid and performs exactly how you would expect it to. The front chainring is geared low enough that overall the bike is geared extremely low (and appropriate). I haven’t experienced any problems with the gearing or drive train.

Box – The box itself is nicely constructed out of plywood, but definitely has a homemade look to it. It looks like it could have used an extra coat of polyurethane for extra weather protection, but it looks nice and functions well.

The final word – I’ve had a ton of fun riding around on the Joe Bike. It handles well, and it’s done exactly what I was hoping it would do. My daughter loves it (a.k.a. she falls asleep instantly in it), and I’m looking forward to many wonderful hours of fun on it. If you’re looking for a great bike for recreational purposes, then this is your bike. If you’re looking for a bike to use for business purposes, if you’re contemplating going totally car-free and using this as your primary transportation, or if you plan on having to carry items (e.g. groceries) in addition to a kid in the box, you may want to consider spending the extra $1,500 for a more advanced model.

Bicycle Bells

Huzzah! Another question in the inbox! This one comes from Marla, who blogs at Muppets & Me. Here’s her question:

what do you recommend for newbie bikers?
do you have a bell?
what are some good things to get for a 100 mile bike trip?
🙂  you are the expert.

Thank you for recognizing my expertise. I recommend the following:

  • beef jerky
  • two packs of playing cards
  • bacon
  • soda-pop
  • a needleand thread
  • shovel (wood handle)
  • a good lubricant.

Do I have a bell? YES, on one of my bikes. Not on the others, which is unfortunate. I think nearly every bike should have a bell. I strongly encourage you to buy a bell.

However, now we have a little problem. There’s no easy way to say this, so I’m just going to lay it out: I read on your blog in a post called Ding Ding! that you’ve been thinking about bike bells, which is fantastic. However, let’s just get this out on the table: Bicycle bells should not go “Ding Ding!”, “Ding!”, or “Ding a ling a ling!” as you stated in your post. A proper bike bell is more of a “Brrrrrring!” or maybe “Brrrrrring Bing!” In some cases, more of a “Csha Cshing!” sound is acceptable. But never “Ding Ding!”

The only exception to “Ding!” is if you’re talking about one of these brass bells:

Universal Bike Bell
Universal Bike Bell

Brass bells can often make a sound similar to a “Ding!”, but depending on size, it’s often more of a “Ping!”

Good luck bell shopping!

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Free Bike Rack

Sort of.

More like abandoned. But I’m pretty sure nobody is coming back for it or will miss it if it disappeared. Nobody has parked a bike here in many years.

Abandoned Bike Rack
Abandoned Bike Rack

It is anchored into the ground in concrete, but not very deep, and the ground is very soft.  By doing nothing other than kicking at the ground with my shoe I was able to substantially loosen one end of it. I’m about 85% positive that a couple of ambitious persons with a bottle jack, some shovels, and a correctly sized 2×4 could have this thing out of the ground in about 20 minutes.  The only drawback is that one end is slightly bent.

Someday, I want to have a bike rack at my house.  I think that would be awesome.  I’ve never known anybody with a bike rack at their house before.

Have at it, folks!