Not Against Gay Rights

Regular readers will recall that I am collecting all entries in the PostSecret project that explicitly reference Mormonism or the LDS Church. You can see the rest of the entries I’ve collected here.

The newest entry is disappointing for several reasons.

I'm Mormon... and im NOT against gay rights.

1. It’s not really a statement about anything. This person is “not against” gay rights perhaps in the same sense that I’m “not against” macramé.

2. Which gay rights are we talking about? All card carrying Mormons say they support [edit: some] gay rights.

3. Even beyond playing semantics with this one, it’s disappointing that the author of this card thinks this needs to be a secret. Plenty of  Mormons are openly supporting gay marriage.

This secret is a dud. Enough Milk already. I’m ready for some Meat!

7 thoughts on “Not Against Gay Rights”

  1. Oh, come on. It’s not semantics to say the Mormon church has come out against gay rights, specifically, the right to marry. The page you link to is all about limiting rights (under the name of “protecting marriage”). Just because you don’t support taking ALL rights away, like, say, equal housing, does not mean you’re not opposed to gay rights.

  2. @Emily – it’s exactly semantics! No doubt the Church and most of it’s members are adamantly opposed to allowing gay marriage. They’re also adamantly opposed to considering gay marriage a “right”. That’s the point of the link. It’s the church making an argument that they support gay rights, but marriage is not a right.

    Perhaps my statement in the original post is a little broad. Perhaps I should have said “All card carrying Mormons say they support some gay rights.

  3. @Emily – as another follow-up…
    I’m trying to say that “We support gay rights” is something I would expect to hear from Church PR folks. Whether anyone believes it, or whether the church’s actions support the claim, is another question.

  4. You have good points, but I liked this secret because I realized that I tend to be protective of my support for gay rights. I would never bring it up around my in-laws, for instance, because they are adamantly against gay marriage, etc. So maybe it’s a little bit of a dud, but not a major one!

  5. As a gay mormon (or should I say, as a mormon homo?), may I offer the opinion that it really is all about gay marriage. Housing rights, medical decision-making, employment issues, are all secondary. The church says that two gay people living together are living in sin. Gay marriage takes away that patently unjust and cruel judgement. 23 years after Rosa Parks was arrested for not giving up her bus seat to a white man, the church allowed blacks to receive the priesthood. I’m guessing that about 20 years after Prop 8, the church will find a way to recognize gay marriages; i.e., married gay mormons will be welcome in the LDS community

  6. Did you know that blacks were allowed the priesthood before the Mormon Pioneers trekked out to Utah? (I have friends that learned this while doing genealogy)They weren’t allowed to talk about it or practice it in public because it would have literally torn the church apart much the same way our country has been torn apart by equal rights for blacks. Line upon line, precept upon precept. The word of wisdom is another example. When it was first practiced they focused on tobacco and alcohol use. Then once that was understood they moved to things like tea and coffee.
    However when it comes to gay marriage, the LDS church’s official stand against it is because with these laws gays could sue and the government could try to force gay marriage into our temples. A gay couple is no more deep into sin than someone who sleeps around or regularly watches porn. All of those things along with not fulling church duties, participating gang activity or even not paying your tithing, to say the least, can make a person unworthy. It’s not even a matter of bad PR, but rather a government that is continuously encroaching upon our personal and religious freedoms among others. In my opinion, this day and age a marriage sanctioned by the federal government (which could include gays) should be separated from religious ceremonies and should be practiced separately. Leaving each person and religion “free” to choose who is worthy through their doctrine to marry in their religious ceremonies with out hindering civil rights.

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